European countries based on the year they became independent or unified Quiz by nearlyextinct

Year	Country	Description of Formation
301		Independence from Roman Empire
700		Unification
843		Unification
1139		Independence from Almoravid Empire
1263		Independence from Mongol Empire
1278		Paréage
1338		Independence from Genoa
1479		Unification
1499		Unification
1523		Independence from Denmark
1648		Independence from Spain
1707		Unification
1829		Independence from Ottoman Empire
1830		Independence from the Netherlands
1861		Unification
1866		Independence from Germany
1867		Independence from the Netherlands
1878		Unification
1905		Independence from Sweden
1908		Independence from Ottoman Empire
1912		Independence from Ottoman Empire
4-Jan-1918		Independence from Russian Empire
31-Oct-1918		Country split into multiple parts

Year	Country	Description of Formation
11-Nov-1918		Treaty to re-establish as a sovereign state
1922		Independence from the UK
1923		Evolved out of Ottoman Empire
1929		Independence from Italy
1944		Independence from Denmark
1955		Treaty to re-establish as a sovereign state
1960		Independence from the UK
1964		Independence from the UK
11-Mar-1990		Independence from USSR
4-May-1990		Independence from USSR
3-Oct-1990		Reunification
20-Aug-1991		Independence from USSR
24-Aug-1991		Independence from USSR
25-Dec-1991		Independence from USSR
15-Jan-1992		Independence from Yugoslavia
2-Mar-1992		Independence from USSR
6-Apr-1992		Independence from Yugoslavia
7-Apr-1992		Independence from Yugoslavia
1-Jan-1993		Countries split into multiple parts
8-Apr-1993		Independence from Yugoslavia
3-Jun-2006		Country split into multiple parts
5-Jun-2006		Country split into multiple parts
2008		Declared Independence

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European Independence Quiz

by nearlyextinct

Created Oct 5, 2009 in History
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	swellwrench:	Oct 5th, 2009 at 08:32 GMT		10 points
	Great quiz, but a couple of problems. First, why are the Czech Republic and Slovakia listed together, but not Serbia and Montenegro? Also, "start of modern-day country" for Russia and Turkey isn't a very good description...they didn't appear out of nowhere. Also, your choice of date for Russia seems odd...I wouldn't really call it "Russia" until the formation of the Tsardom of Russia in 1547. 1169 was the foundation of the Vladimir-Suzdal Rus, which seems a little arbitrary - was it any more "Russia" than the Kievan Rus which preceded it? There are probably similar problems with some of the other older countries...it's hard to pin down when exactly a country comes into being sometimes.

	EGaffney:	Oct 5th, 2009 at 10:09 GMT		2 points
	Good quiz.

	SPU:	Oct 5th, 2009 at 12:44 GMT		4 points
	Some specific problems: -Luxembourg did certainly not become independent from Belgium; it was never part of Belgium. I would say it became independent from the Netherlands in 1867, but several other dates and countries are defensible. -You seem to be generally using not the date when independence was declared, but when it was recognized. I would prefer the date when independence was declared. That would move the Netherlands to 1581 and several of the remnants of the SU and Yugoslavia a few months down.

	nearlyextinct:	Oct 5th, 2009 at 12:45 GMT		3 points
	I listed Czech Republic and Slovakia together because there independence happened on the same day while Serbia and Montenegro were separated by 2 days.

	johnlk:	Oct 5th, 2009 at 15:00 GMT		2 points
	Bulgaria didn't become independent until 1908 - it was still technically a self-governing part of the Ottoman Empire from 1878 to 1908.

	johnlk:	Oct 5th, 2009 at 15:01 GMT		2 points
	Also, seeing is this is mostly about recognition, rather than de facto independence, Poland should probably be 1918, rather than 1944

	nearlyextinct:	Oct 5th, 2009 at 17:10 GMT		1 point
	SPU the problem with that is some countries declared independence on the same day.

	AtomicIce:	Oct 6th, 2009 at 00:46 GMT		3 points
	2 specific problems I see: A) The USSR didn't exist in 1992, making it hard to become independent from it then B) Slovenia was independent before Bosnia

	SecretAZNMan:	Oct 6th, 2009 at 01:03 GMT		2 points
	@ AtomicIce March 1992 is when Moldova was admitted to the UN. It declared independence in 1991.

	nearlyextinct:	Oct 6th, 2009 at 04:14 GMT		-2 points
	AtomicIce what are you basing the fact that Slovenia was independent before Bosnia? I chose when they joined the UN for a lot of these because it shows that there independence is recognized.

	Peanut:	Oct 7th, 2009 at 00:47 GMT		6 points
	Germany was actually first unified in 1871, then split up again after WW2 before reunified into the modern state in 1990. However there are several other states which were changed a lot or broken up again, e.g. Poland and Finland, where the first independent state is the date used.

	nearlyextinct:	Oct 7th, 2009 at 22:25 GMT		1 point
	That is why I put reunified for Germany and not unified. Poland and Finland may have have changed governments and undergo civil wars, but so have many other countries. Germany was controlled by foreign powers and split up for more than 40 years.

	justagirl:	Oct 9th, 2009 at 16:24 GMT		-1 points
	Needs to accept UK for United Kingdom

	nearlyextinct:	Oct 10th, 2009 at 04:25 GMT		3 points
	It does accept UK for United Kingdom. Maybe you just answered the wrong one?

	nearlyextinct:	Oct 10th, 2009 at 05:22 GMT		1 point
	What do you think of the time required for this quiz?

	Wilford:	Oct 14th, 2009 at 21:16 GMT		3 points
	Time is ok.

	bigal4:	Oct 19th, 2009 at 22:58 GMT		-1 points
	i think there should be more time, maybe 1 or 2 mins more

	chriskotx:	Jul 26th, 2010 at 08:14 GMT		2 points
	Very very interesting and informative quiz. Yeah, I would have liked a couple of minutes more to deal with all the little states created when the Soviet Union and then Yugoslavia came apart. Some of the dates I was confused on...like how did Liechtenstein get independence from Germany in 1866 when Germany didnt unify until 1871?

	Zephos:	Aug 19th, 2010 at 02:03 GMT		1 point
	It was part of the German Confederation until then.