Can you name the big 4 teams that have never won a league championship? by jujuju

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Championshipless Teams Quiz

by jujuju

Created Oct 28, 2010 in Sports
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	jujuju:	Oct 28th, 2010 at 23:49 GMT	6 points
	Note: Cleveland Brown's records refer to the team founded in 1950. They are not associated with the Baltimore Ravens who have won a Super Bowl as part of a separate franchise.

	pmikej:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 04:04 GMT	1 point
	Detroit Lions were an NFL team prior to the Minnesota Vikings. I belive the Lions won an NFL championship prior to the NFL-AFL merger. Same for the Cleveland Browns and Philadelphia Eagles.

	pmikej:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 04:05 GMT	2 points
	The NBA teams listed as being in the league 36, 36 and 34 years all came into the league the same season (imports from the ABA all).

	pmikej:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 04:06 GMT	2 points
	The NBA teams listed as being in the league 42 and 40 years were expansion teams during the same season.

	Morbo:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 05:56 GMT	-1 points
	You really should go back and include pre-Super Bowl era champions. It's not like we're trying to guess archaic teams.

	sobdennis:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 06:15 GMT	2 points
	In a way, this is getting picky, but if you are going to say the AFL teams that won Super Bowls before the merger(Jets, Chiefs)have titles(and I agree that they do), you should consider the AFL original 8 as being in the League for 44 years, not 41. Otherwise you are saying the Jets and Chiefs were part of the NFL but the Bills and Chargers weren't. In reality they all joined in 1970. But for the purpose of this quiz, it should be 1966.

	coyotesfan2342:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 09:54 GMT	-2 points
	Completely agree with not including pre-Super Bowl titles, that's like counting the AL and NL champions in baseball as "championships". The AFL and NFL teams did not play each other before the Super Bowl, so there is no true champion if there are two out there. It's just whiny Packers, Bears, and Browns fans who think their team is better than they really are.

	jujuju:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 12:21 GMT	3 points
	pmikej: I'm only counting how long each team has played in the super bowl era, years played in the NFL before that are irrelevant. Thanks for pointing out the other mistakes, must have been an error in my math. Sobdennis: I guess it makes sense to change it as they have been eligible to win the Super Bowl for 44 years, no matter how long they have been in the league. Thanks for pointing that out.

	AHK:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 13:00 GMT	-1 points
	exxxxxxxxxxxxxxtremely difficult.

	nkirbit:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 14:23 GMT	3 points
	I think the Oklahoma City Thunder should be included, since they didn't inherit the supersonic's history

	robertloggia16:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 14:49 GMT	-4 points
	Lame.

	AdmiralMaxtreme:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 17:10 GMT	3 points
	@nkirbit: That is false. The Thunder inherited all of the Sonics history, including championships. The only things they didn't inherit were the name, logo, and colors, although they are still technically possessions of the Thunder.

	antlyon:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 17:19 GMT	3 points
	There was a NFL before the Super Bowl.

	Morbo:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 20:27 GMT	2 points
	@coyotesfan: It's nothing like counting AL and NL championships as league championships. The Eagles, Lions, Cardinals and Browns all won the NFL championship before the AFL was even in existence. I can understand if you don't want to count the AFL championships, but those that won NFL championships in the 1940s and 50s should not be included in this quiz.

	jujuju:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 20:44 GMT	3 points
	Both sides have valid arguments, however, I am going to keep it the same as it always has been. Most Sporcle quizzes do not consider the pre-Super Bowl era and why should this quiz be any different.

	Theron:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 21:22 GMT	1 point
	@coyotesfan2342: By that logic, the Bucks should be on the list since they won their only NBA crown while the ABA was in full swing. Personally, I think the position that the history of professional American Football began in 1966 is ridiculous.

	JJDal138:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 23:00 GMT	3 points
	So NFL teams that won a championship before the AFL existed don't count as champions, but an NHL team that last won a championship when there were only 6 teams in the league does (Toronto Maple Leafs 1967).

	jujuju:	Oct 29th, 2010 at 23:31 GMT	2 points
	@JJDal138: I think there is a complete difference. The NFL Championship does not occur anymore. It was stopped in 1966, and was replaced by the Super Bowl. The Stanley Cup has always been given to the best team in the NHL, no matter how many teams were in the league at the time. The league recognizes this as a Stanley Cup win. The NFL, however, does not recognize the victor of an NFL championship as a Super Bowl winner, therefore teams that won an NFL championship, but not a Super Bowl, are going to be put on this list.

	cocky:	Oct 30th, 2010 at 00:06 GMT	4 points
	The NFL championship still exists. It is called the Super Bowl. Quizzes that ignore the fact the NFL has existed since 1920 suck.

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	cocky:	Oct 30th, 2010 at 00:57 GMT	2 points
	I'm not a fan of any of those teams. I'm a fan of quizzzes that accurately state who has won an NFL title and acknowledge that pro football was played prior to 1966.

	catch84:	Oct 30th, 2010 at 02:07 GMT	2 points
	Actually the last NFL championship was 1969.

	HollywoodLeo:	Oct 30th, 2010 at 02:20 GMT	5 points
	You can't say the pre-Super Bowl NFL championships should count without saying the AFL championships should count. The reason the Super Bowl even came into existence (and then the merger) is because the AFL proved to be just as legit as the NFL, so it's a slap in the face to the teams that won that league to suggest we should count pre-Super Bowl NFL championships but not AFL championships.

	Packman:	Oct 30th, 2010 at 02:32 GMT	-1 points
	Add 1-2 more minutes please. Good quiz though.

	AdmiralMaxtreme:	Oct 31st, 2010 at 17:36 GMT	3 points
	HollywoodLeo is right. The NFL-AFL wasn't like the NBA-ABA or NHL-WHL mergers. In both of the latter cases, the dominant league just absorbed some new teams, while in the former, it was a much more balanced merger. The post-merger NFL is fundamentally different than the pre-merger NFL. Even though some teams did switch conferences, the NFC championship is basically the pre-merger NFL championship, and likewise with the AFC and AFL. The Super Bowl is like a new round in the playoffs after that. It is a fundamentally different game than the NFL championships.

	ricestillfumbled:	Nov 3rd, 2010 at 15:20 GMT	-2 points
	yea the majority of the lombardi years and the greatest game ever played mean nothing because they werent during the super bowl era....yet when the cubs won a world series in 1908 (in front of an insane crowd of 6,210) it meant everything

	HollywoodLeo:	Nov 10th, 2010 at 05:46 GMT	2 points
	I don't think anybody in here said that those games meant nothing.