Can you name the Most Over/Under Rated MLB Players Ever At Each Position? by demian711

Can you name the Most Over/Under Rated MLB Players Ever At Each Position?

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We made this quiz based on a book we read by Jayson Stark. The book gives the top 5 over/underrated players at each postition but we narrowed it down to the most over/under rated players...Good Luck
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Position	Player	Teams Played For
Overrated RHP		Mets, Angels, Astros, Rangers
Underrated RHP		Indians
Overrated LHP		Dodgers
Underrated LHP		Red Sox, Yankees
Overrated DH		Yankees, White Sox
Underrated DH		Mariners
Overrated C		Padres, Marlins, Reds, Phillies, Blue Jays, Cubs, Giants, Royals, Pirates
Underrated C		Yankees, Mets

Position	Player	Teams Played For
Overrated 1B		Dodgers, Padres
Underrated 1B		Tigers, Pirates
Overrated 2B		Dodgers, Yankees, White Sox, A's
Underrated 2B		Astros
Overrated 3B		Twins, Indians, Yankees, Padres, Braves, Expos
Underrated 3B		Cubs, White Sox
Overrated SS		Yankees
Underrated SS		Reds

Position	Player	Teams Played For
Overrated LF		Cubs, Cardinals
Underrated LF		Cardinals
Overrated CF		Braves, Dodgers, Rangers, White Sox, Yankees
Underrated CF		Dodgers, Mets, Giants
Overrated RF		Padres, Yankees, Angels, Blue Jays, Twins, Indians
Underrated RF		Reds, Orioles, Dodgers, Angels, Indians

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Most Over/Under Rated MLB Players Ever At Each Position Quiz

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	icenine:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 05:40 GMT		2 points
	good quiz, strange list. How are guys like Berra, Greenberg, Musial, and Snider underrated? They're all first ballot HOFers.

	jeffthepardoner:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 06:04 GMT		3 points
	As a Cardinal fan, I can attest to how under appreciated he is to a lot of baseball fans. The name I think is the most strange is Steve Sax. Maybe I didn't follow him closely enough, but I didn't realize he had enough esteem to be overrated.

	amwoods13:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 06:44 GMT		1 point
	You listed all teams for all players except the overrated CF. Any reason his other teams (Dodgers, Rangers, White Sox) aren't listed?

	notaratface:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 07:51 GMT		4 points
	@icenine: Duke Snider was not a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer, it took him over 10 years of eligibility before the voters deemed he was worthy enough to be inducted. If only because of that, considering how great a player he was, he might rightfully be considered 'underrated' for the purposes of this list that the quizmaker presents us with.

	Slider71:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 16:01 GMT		1 point
	I so totally agree on the overrated RHP.

	grossekugeln:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 16:57 GMT		-1 points
	How is Benito Santiago possibly more overrated than Jason Kendall and Jason Varitek?

	nuclearjew:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 17:27 GMT		1 point
	I had to stop after Koufax was considered over-rated. Jayson Stark, you're an idiot.

	LinuxLinus:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 18:37 GMT		2 points
	Entered Jeter, got nothing, quit.

	RonTrauma:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 19:07 GMT		-3 points
	Larkin is in the wrong spot. Totally overrated. And where's Robby Alomar?

	mcmccoy1378:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 20:31 GMT		-2 points
	Pretty good list, but have 3 disagreements. 1)Koufax was amazing. If Tommy John surgery was available when he played, he would've ended up posting numbers giving him the title of greatest pitcher to ever play. Without question. 2)Berra is mentioned EVERYTIME you hear a "greatest catcher discussion." Plus, he's a Yankee. THERE ARE NO UNDERATED YANKEES.(unfortunately) 3)Andrew Jones may be terrible now, but was AWESOME for a 10 year stretch. He is without question, one of the top three defensive center fielders EVER. Pretty good with the bat too (besides the strikeouts) I would replace with the following- Overated LHP- Whitey Ford (Never got 300 wins) and surprise surprise...he's a Yankee. Underated Catcher- Ted Simmons- How he's not in the HOF and Gary Carter is, is beyond me. His numbers are better or atleast compare with Carter, Fisk, and Bench. Wasn't as good defensively I admit. Overrated CF- Bernie Williams- Yankee again I know, but the media loved him yet his numbers are average.

	demian711:	Jul 30th, 2011 at 22:47 GMT		2 points
	i apologize about missing CF teams ill fix it...and as far as the people listed Koufax is deemed overrated because for as good as he was for most of his career everyone seems to over looks that at one point in his career in 6 seasons he had a record of 36-40 and an ERA over 4......Berra is considered underrated simply because people remember him so much more for his stupid sayings than having 3 mvps and 10 rings. Andruw Jones despite being fantastic in his early career with a glove his defensive numbers fell every season and the year he hit 51 HRS he had a batting average under .265. Ted Simmons is the number 2 underrated catcher. But overall im not here to defend or support any player, if you want to see why they are here read the book its actually very interesting.

	rats60:	Jul 31st, 2011 at 01:41 GMT		-2 points
	This is the stupidest quiz ever. Sandy Koufax is the greatest pitcher that I've ever seen pitch. He was unanimously voted the best pitcher in Baseball (Cy Young when only 1 was given out) 3 of his last 4 years. If he's overrated, then so are Carlton, Seaver, Gibson, Palmer, Maddux, Johnson, Clemens, Martinez, ect because none of them are in his class. As far as his underrated list, it's a joke. Feller, Ruth, Berra, Musial, Robinson. These guys are all rated among the top 2-3 players at their position all time. Greenberg and Snider aren't far behind. Snider was considered in the same class as Mays and Mantle when they played. Ruth only pitched 3 full seasons and he was great, but somehow he is underrated and the guy who put together the greatest 5 year span in history is overrated? As far as Koufax's early record, if Jayson Stark wasn't an idiot, he would have known that Koufax couldn't pitch in the minors or the Dodgers would have lost him to another team like they did with Roberto Clemente. It would help if Stark knew anything about Baseball history, but he obviously doen't from this list.

	rats60:	Jul 31st, 2011 at 01:45 GMT		-1 points
	Another point, if you really wanted a true underrated/overrated list, the guys on the overrated list should be HOFers who don't belong, you could fill a list easily, and underrated would be guys who aren't in and should be such as Gil Hodges. Now there's a first baseman who was underrated, not Hank Greenberg.

	nuclearjew:	Jul 31st, 2011 at 16:15 GMT		2 points
	Career WAR is a worthless stat and if you think that makes Koufax = Saberhagen, you're a moron.

	tarheel3350:	Jul 31st, 2011 at 16:55 GMT		0 points
	very interesting quiz and choices

	Haunter:	Jul 31st, 2011 at 23:35 GMT		-1 points
	I quit as soon as Koufax's name came up.

	TrivialSteve:	Aug 1st, 2011 at 22:42 GMT		3 points
	I'm not a Tigers fan, but I think the most criminally underrated 2B of all time is Lou Whitaker (and Trammell is not far back in terms of underrated SS.) I'm a huge Dodger fan and my dad claims that during his brief peak, it was commonly understood that if you got a hit off Koufax it was because you did something wrong (he had such control), but I must admit that the operative word in that sentence is "brief". Who knows what he would have accomplished had he not retired at 30, but its probably more likely his numbers would have come down than continue at the 25W, 300K level. You can't penalize him for not playing longer, but you also can't inflate his accomplishments based on a projection of what could have been (see Lefty O'Doul, Albert Belle.)

	statephone:	Aug 2nd, 2011 at 06:51 GMT		1 point
	i think its specious to talk about koufax when it comes to "career" rankings. he retired at 30 from horrible arm problems, and he was clearly the best pitcher in baseball at the time. some great players in sports are like comets, and koufax is probably the ultimate example of that. people often get wrapped up in breaking down stats, but you know greatness when you see it, and koufax at his peak was probably one of the 5 best pitchers who ever lived. That is to say, he was pitching at a level that was as good as pitching gets. Every one who saw him in his prime feels that way. On a side note, its good to see Garvey and Winfield considered overrated, because they never seemed that great to me.

	ianmez:	Aug 2nd, 2011 at 18:28 GMT		1 point
	Funny, I never thought of Steve Sax, Graig Nettles, or Steve Garvey as good enough to be overrated. I guess anyone can be overrated. But to be the "most overrated" player in baseball history I'd at least like to have a reaction like, "Hey! Wait a minute--I thought that guy was awesome!" Which is why I think his inclusion of guys like Koufax, Berra, and Brock is infinitely more interesting. That gets much more of a rise out of people.

	matthew67899:	Aug 2nd, 2011 at 21:01 GMT		0 points
	I tried typing "Ozzie Smith" for most overrated SS a few times to no avail.

	tarheel3350:	Aug 4th, 2011 at 00:05 GMT		1 point
	i love the edgar martinez choice

	JackJouette:	Aug 4th, 2011 at 01:03 GMT		2 points
	If you read Jayson Starks book, he explains how these player were overrated in there time or by history.

	kingsfan19:	Aug 4th, 2011 at 07:00 GMT		2 points
	Sandy Koufax overrated? Between 1963-66, there may have never been a better four-year stretch by anyone. All he did in 1966 was win 27 games with a shredded elbow. As far as Nolan Ryan, he was the only reason to even watch the Angels between 1972-77. He got hideous run support (not much better in Houston, BTW). I guess Jayson Stark is entitled to his opinion, but I believe either of these pitchers (ages 75 and 64 respectively) could strike out Jayson Stark today...or (more deservedly) put him on his butt with a high hard one!

	yellomellojello:	Aug 5th, 2011 at 01:20 GMT		2 points
	Right on BrokenBahamut. Koufax was great, but it's easy to forget that he pitched smack in the middle of the best period for pitchers since the dead ball era, and in the best pitcher's park in the league. In the 3 years he had an ERA under 2.00, the league average ERAs were: 3.29, 3.54, and 3.61. Still great seasons to be sure, but they pale in comparison to something like Pedro's years under 2.00, where the league average ERAs were 4.20 and 4.91.

	MMayes:	Aug 5th, 2011 at 21:05 GMT		1 point
	Ron Blomberg? He only gets credit for being the first DH. It was probably in the couple of minutes between his plate appearance and the next DH batted that he was ever thought of as being an elite DH in the 70s like Hal McRae, Tommy Davis and Tony Oliva (although I remember he was hyped for his power. Unfortunately, he had injury problems and never did much, so maybe it was the New York media at fault for his being "overrated.")

	nuclearjew:	Aug 7th, 2011 at 17:55 GMT		1 point
	"Koufax posted a career 1.11 WHIP, averaged 14W-7L per season, and had a K/BB ratio of 2.93. Bret Saberhagen posted a career 1.14 WHIP, averaged 10W-7L per season, and had a K/BB ratio of 3.64." Koufax, from 62-66: 0.93 WHIP, 111-34 W/L (average of 22-5), K/BB 4.57, 33 shutouts, 4 no-hitters, 1.95 ERA, 167 ERA+. There are fewer greater pitching peaks than that. And he accomplished that from the ages of 25-30. If he were able to pitch even 5 more years, he likely would've had even better career numbers. To call him "over-rated" is disingenuous.

	johnlk:	Aug 7th, 2011 at 21:42 GMT		1 point
	In terms of career pitching peaks, one can find five year intervals by other pitchers that are comparable. Pedro Martinez 1997-2003: 0.940 WHIP, 118-36 W/L (average of 17-5), K/BB 5.59, 11 shutouts (but obviously a time when pitchers weren't pitching complete games anymore), 2.20 ERA, 213 ERA+. Walter Johnson 1910-1919: 0.95 WHIP, 265-143 W/L (average of 22-12, but playing on much worse teams than Koufax), K/BB 3.36, 74 shutouts, 1.59 ERA, 184 ERA+. That's ages 22-31, so he was a much better pitcher much sooner than Koufax. I'd say that Pedro is arguably the most underrated RHP. As far as Koufax goes, I guess the issues with him are two: 1) he wasn't that good in his earlier seasons, which means his career rate states aren't amazing; and 2) he didn't have the kind of longevity that allowed him to amass great career counting stats. His peak, though, was certainly among the best of all time. The only real competitors that I'm aware of are Walter Johnson and Pedro Martinez (who perhaps should be the most underrated right-handed pitcher of all time, although Feller's a good pick there as well).

	nuclearjew:	Aug 8th, 2011 at 00:22 GMT		1 point
	That's why I said "there are fewer greater pitching peaks than that". I would say Walter and Pedro had better statistical peaks than Koufax (but stats like ERA+ hurt Koufax because the league averages were relatively low, though he managed to lead the league in many statistics during his peak). I don't know if I'd call Pedro underrated as he most likely will be a first-ballot HoFer (well, if he's not first-ballot, then there are a lot of idiots voting). Yes, Koufax wasn't great until he turned 25 and had a mediocre seasons up until then, but there are a lot of pitchers who could say the same (like Pedro Martinez and Randy Johnson). Unfortunately health kept Koufax from compiling career numbers, but I think his 62-66 seasons speak for themselves.

	TimmyAngel:	Sep 10th, 2011 at 15:17 GMT		0 points
	I don't agree with the overrated RHP. If you throw seven no hitters and lead the history of MLB in strikeouts by almost 1000, you're not overrated. You're just that good.

	jdnewman:	Sep 11th, 2011 at 00:54 GMT		-1 points
	bad quiz, based entirely off of opinion

	SleapeeHed:	Jan 10th, 2012 at 05:13 GMT		0 points
	What hurt Duke Snider the most was being the third-best CF in NY, having played most of his career with Mantle & Mays in town.

	jensen99:	Dec 14th, 2012 at 14:10 GMT		1 point
	Some very good picks in there. Obviously you're never going to get completely agreement in something so subjective. My biggest disagreements would be Nettles at 3B, he was a GG caliber 3B that didn't get the trophies and was a high OPS guy before we knew what that was. All that and he flew completely under the radar in NY and SD. I also think that Dwight Evans would be a better choice as underrated RF. Another high OPS, GG player who had a better career than Rice but nobody noticed.