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Can you name the players who have won the Cy Young and MVP in the same season?
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MLB Cy Young/MVP Same Season Quiz
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Oct 18th, 2009 at 01:39 GMT
I don't know if 2 minutes is long enough or too much so just give me feedback about the time.
Oct 18th, 2009 at 01:55 GMT
Didnt seem long enough at first glance but with the year/team its pretty easy to guess some players. I got it in 37 seconds and Im a slow typer so I think its ok
Jun 1st, 2010 at 05:35 GMT
2 minutes is good
Oct 26th, 2010 at 00:09 GMT
Time was good for me. Nice quiz. Thanks!
Game published: Nov 21st, 2011 at 18:57 GMT
Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:31 GMT
This is a good Sports quiz and a good time limit. Good job. :)
Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:33 GMT
Wow, not only did I get half of them right, I scored in the 50th percentile, and when I look at the pattern on the answers mine go right, wrong, right, wrong, all the way down. I shouldn't have missed Clemens. But I hate him, so I'm just as glad that I did.
Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:35 GMT
McClain, McClane, MacClain, MacClane, McLean, MacLean... DRAT!!!
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Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:42 GMT
Of all those guys, only Verlander arguably deserved it (per WAR via B-R and FanGraphs). While a pitcher can be the MVP, 5 men rotations and enforced pitch limits mean they simply don't get enough innings played to contribute as much as batters (a starting pitcher will only play in about 17% of his team's total innings). A relief pitcher can never deserve either the MVP or CY: probably the most dominant relief pitcher season was Eckersley's '92 and he played in less then 6% of the A's innings that year (Mike Marshall in '74 appeared in 14% of the Dodgers' games the year he set the record for most appearances and wont eh CY).
Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:55 GMT
Wolfie, it's not clear whether you know this, but the MVP is only based on regular-season performance. Whether Verlander made the Tigers a better postseason team is irrelevant.
Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:58 GMT
Great quiz. Wish there was some way to adjust for the multiple spellings of McLain. Verlander was lights out all year, and even as a Red Sox fan, I have to say he deserved it.
Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:07 GMT
@TrivialSteve Huh? Bob Gibson has far and away the most BWaR in '68 and Koufax '63is within margin of error with Aaron and Mays. Blue '71 was a little behind Wood (another pitcher), but Wood wasn't going to win that year no matter what. Clemens '86 was pretty much a combination of Koufax and Blue; he was real close to Boggs' WaR and Milwaukee wasn't very good (Higuera).
Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:14 GMT
@nuclear_knuckles. Right clearly. I know other pitchers have won the Cy Young not on playoff contending teams. But being an MVP is a bit different. It's rare enough that a non-playoff team has an MVP. But Verlander was most valuable to their success as a team.I just added on that it helped more to have him in the playoffs regardless of whether he wins the MVP or not.
Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:17 GMT
love how you accept different spellings of eckersley
Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:33 GMT
@TrivialSteve: I've heard the innings argument before, but people who make it tend not to consider that a pitcher exerts way more influence over a game than a given positional player. Even getting beyond the question of whether the pitcher or batter is more responsible for the outcome of a given at-bat, pitchers participate in many more at bats per game than positional players. For example, Verlander faced 969 batters this year, while the runner-up AL MVP Ellsbury had 729 plate appearances.
Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:56 GMT
Hernandez over Newcombe? Surprising.
Nov 21st, 2011 at 22:44 GMT
Crazy that there are two closers on this list...
Nov 21st, 2011 at 22:53 GMT
It is an absolute travesty that Pedro Martinez was shafted out of the MVP vote in 1999. I'm glad that logic finally prevailed this year, and that Verlander got the MVP as he deserved.
Nov 21st, 2011 at 23:31 GMT
@guide, did you factor in how many plays in the field ellsbury made too?
Nov 21st, 2011 at 23:42 GMT
Poor pedro martinez
Nov 21st, 2011 at 23:56 GMT
@kps: No, I didn't. But remember that pitchers field as well. Also, while a fielder at any position may be involved in many more plays in the field than a pitcher will be over an entire season, most of these are going to be routine plays. Quantifying defense is an interesting challenge but as it is it's extremely rare to hear an MVP candidate's defensive performance mentioned either as a positive or negative.
Nov 21st, 2011 at 23:58 GMT
@guide, you can't compare at-bats vs. Batters faced, when Ellsbury makes way more plays in the field than Verlander, plus you're forgetting the 3rd part of the game, the part in which Ellsbury is arguably the best in the majors at, base running.
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Nov 22nd, 2011 at 00:27 GMT
Remove Verlander from the Tigers and they don't sniff the playoffs. You can't say the same for Smellsbury or any of the other MVP contenders. You sabermetrics ass hats lose sight of simple facts like that. No one was more VALUABLE to their team in 2011 than Justin Verlander. You clowns can't invent any stat that adequately refutes that simple reality.
Nov 22nd, 2011 at 00:59 GMT
I happen to think Verlander was a deserving candidate, he may not have been my first choice, but I'm not offended that he won. However, I think people are getting carried away with "the Tigers don't sniff the playoffs without Verlander." Let's remember that Detroit won the AL Central by FIFTEEN games. Yes, it was a close race throughout July and most of August, but their chief competition was an Indians team that everyone agreed was playing over their heads (both scouts and statisticians.) I don't think WAR is a perfect system, but if you use that, you could replace Verlander with say, Armando Galarraga, and the Tigers still win by six games. By any form of analysis, I think it's hard to argue that the Tigers wouldn't be the best team in the division even without Verlander.
Nov 22nd, 2011 at 01:03 GMT
And I do want to mention again that Verlander was pretty deserving...he was darn close to the guys who did the best in the "value" categories like WAR (Bautista and Ellsbury.) And Bautista's team wasn't competitive, while Ellsbury's choked down the stretch (despite pretty solid play from him.) I can understand why Verlander won.
Nov 22nd, 2011 at 01:20 GMT
A dominant offensive player on a good team would have won the MVP over Verlander, but there was no such player this year. Verlander deserved to win it.
Nov 22nd, 2011 at 01:25 GMT
Guys—I wasn't trying to make a claim about Verlander's or Ellsbury's worthiness of the award this year. I was just pointing out that the argument that starting pitchers play in less than 20% of their team's innings is a faulty one. I also think it's really unfortunate that TrivialSteve was downvoted for a respectful, researched post.
Nov 22nd, 2011 at 02:25 GMT
I dont really agree with a pitcher getting the MVP just because a starter goes out there every 5 days (or at least in this day and age), compared to a postition player whos out there everyday.
Nov 22nd, 2011 at 03:36 GMT
But on that 5th day, the starter is responsible for up to half of the outs in the game. A position player is only responsible for his 4 AB. Every player in baseball would tell you that having an ace out there every 5th day is just as important as having a stud that plays every day.
Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 GMT
Pitchers should not be allowed to win the MVP, especially Eckersly cause he was a closer! Pitchers do not play 150 - 162 games a season, pitchers pitch about 35! (BTW I'm not saying it is a bad quiz, it's an awesome quiz.)
Nov 22nd, 2011 at 15:19 GMT
The tagline isn't particularly accurate ("it helps to throw a no-hitter"). Obviously, Eck, Fingers and Hernandez didn't throw no-hitters in their CY-MVP years. But also, neither did Newcombe, Gibby, Mclain, Blue, or the Rocket. Only the Left Arm of God and now Verlander threw no-nos in their Cy-MVP year.
Nov 22nd, 2011 at 18:02 GMT
@BrentH - It's not an inaccurate statement. Throwing a no-hitter would certainly increase the likelihood of winning awards. Not throwing a no-hitter does not preclude someone from winning either, obviously.
Nov 23rd, 2011 at 22:10 GMT
Done with 1:42 left. That's as fast as I could type. Hershiser was way more valuable than Gibson in 1988. More SP's should win MVP.
Dec 8th, 2011 at 01:18 GMT
so glad verlander got both. he's absolutely deserving. great quiz i love it!
Jan 6th, 2012 at 20:25 GMT
@aws2594: there are three closers on the list: Eck, Fingers, and senor smoke himself, Guillermo Hernandez of the 1984 Tigers.
Jun 20th, 2012 at 08:40 GMT
Can't believe I knew all of them!
Oct 2nd, 2012 at 06:06 GMT
Pedro Martinez got SCREWWWWWWWWWWED out of the MVP in 1999
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