Players who have won the Cy Young and MVP in the same season Quiz

Year	Player Name	Team
2011		Detroit Tigers
1992		Oakland Athletics
1986		Boston Red Sox
1984		Detroit Tigers
1981		Milwaukee Brewers
1971		Oakland Athletics
1968		Detroit Tigers
1968		St. Louis Cardinals
1963		Los Angeles Dodgers
1956		Brooklyn Dodgers

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MLB Cy Young/MVP Same Season Quiz

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Created Oct 17, 2009 in Sports
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	YankeesIndians:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:31 GMT		8 points
	This is a good Sports quiz and a good time limit. Good job. :)

	Guinevere:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:33 GMT		0 points
	Wow, not only did I get half of them right, I scored in the 50th percentile, and when I look at the pattern on the answers mine go right, wrong, right, wrong, all the way down. I shouldn't have missed Clemens. But I hate him, so I'm just as glad that I did.

	ElisDaddy:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:35 GMT		15 points
	McClain, McClane, MacClain, MacClane, McLean, MacLean... DRAT!!!

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	Nuclear_Knuckles:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:55 GMT		2 points
	Wolfie, it's not clear whether you know this, but the MVP is only based on regular-season performance. Whether Verlander made the Tigers a better postseason team is irrelevant.

	BostonMatt:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 19:58 GMT		-4 points
	Great quiz. Wish there was some way to adjust for the multiple spellings of McLain. Verlander was lights out all year, and even as a Red Sox fan, I have to say he deserved it.

	Giggity1:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:07 GMT		9 points
	@TrivialSteve Huh? Bob Gibson has far and away the most BWaR in '68 and Koufax '63is within margin of error with Aaron and Mays. Blue '71 was a little behind Wood (another pitcher), but Wood wasn't going to win that year no matter what. Clemens '86 was pretty much a combination of Koufax and Blue; he was real close to Boggs' WaR and Milwaukee wasn't very good (Higuera).

	Wolfie0890:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:14 GMT		0 points
	@nuclear_knuckles. Right clearly. I know other pitchers have won the Cy Young not on playoff contending teams. But being an MVP is a bit different. It's rare enough that a non-playoff team has an MVP. But Verlander was most valuable to their success as a team.I just added on that it helped more to have him in the playoffs regardless of whether he wins the MVP or not.

	happygi1more77:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:17 GMT		1 point
	love how you accept different spellings of eckersley

	guide:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:33 GMT		6 points
	@TrivialSteve: I've heard the innings argument before, but people who make it tend not to consider that a pitcher exerts way more influence over a game than a given positional player. Even getting beyond the question of whether the pitcher or batter is more responsible for the outcome of a given at-bat, pitchers participate in many more at bats per game than positional players. For example, Verlander faced 969 batters this year, while the runner-up AL MVP Ellsbury had 729 plate appearances.

	thecassidy:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 20:56 GMT		2 points
	Hernandez over Newcombe? Surprising.

	aws2594:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 22:44 GMT		3 points
	Crazy that there are two closers on this list...

	TheBigE1980:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 22:53 GMT		4 points
	It is an absolute travesty that Pedro Martinez was shafted out of the MVP vote in 1999. I'm glad that logic finally prevailed this year, and that Verlander got the MVP as he deserved.

	kps7179:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 23:31 GMT		4 points
	@guide, did you factor in how many plays in the field ellsbury made too?

	Barrk:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 23:42 GMT		3 points
	Poor pedro martinez

	guide:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 23:56 GMT		1 point
	@kps: No, I didn't. But remember that pitchers field as well. Also, while a fielder at any position may be involved in many more plays in the field than a pitcher will be over an entire season, most of these are going to be routine plays. Quantifying defense is an interesting challenge but as it is it's extremely rare to hear an MVP candidate's defensive performance mentioned either as a positive or negative.

	bmo1616:	Nov 21st, 2011 at 23:58 GMT		-4 points
	@guide, you can't compare at-bats vs. Batters faced, when Ellsbury makes way more plays in the field than Verlander, plus you're forgetting the 3rd part of the game, the part in which Ellsbury is arguably the best in the majors at, base running.

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	marauscher:	Nov 22nd, 2011 at 00:59 GMT		5 points
	I happen to think Verlander was a deserving candidate, he may not have been my first choice, but I'm not offended that he won. However, I think people are getting carried away with "the Tigers don't sniff the playoffs without Verlander." Let's remember that Detroit won the AL Central by FIFTEEN games. Yes, it was a close race throughout July and most of August, but their chief competition was an Indians team that everyone agreed was playing over their heads (both scouts and statisticians.) I don't think WAR is a perfect system, but if you use that, you could replace Verlander with say, Armando Galarraga, and the Tigers still win by six games. By any form of analysis, I think it's hard to argue that the Tigers wouldn't be the best team in the division even without Verlander.

	marauscher:	Nov 22nd, 2011 at 01:03 GMT		1 point
	And I do want to mention again that Verlander was pretty deserving...he was darn close to the guys who did the best in the "value" categories like WAR (Bautista and Ellsbury.) And Bautista's team wasn't competitive, while Ellsbury's choked down the stretch (despite pretty solid play from him.) I can understand why Verlander won.

	Asmodeus10:	Nov 22nd, 2011 at 01:20 GMT		4 points
	A dominant offensive player on a good team would have won the MVP over Verlander, but there was no such player this year. Verlander deserved to win it.

	guide:	Nov 22nd, 2011 at 01:25 GMT		3 points
	Guys—I wasn't trying to make a claim about Verlander's or Ellsbury's worthiness of the award this year. I was just pointing out that the argument that starting pitchers play in less than 20% of their team's innings is a faulty one. I also think it's really unfortunate that TrivialSteve was downvoted for a respectful, researched post.

	sconroy93:	Nov 22nd, 2011 at 02:25 GMT		-3 points
	I dont really agree with a pitcher getting the MVP just because a starter goes out there every 5 days (or at least in this day and age), compared to a postition player whos out there everyday.

	Asmodeus10:	Nov 22nd, 2011 at 03:36 GMT		0 points
	But on that 5th day, the starter is responsible for up to half of the outs in the game. A position player is only responsible for his 4 AB. Every player in baseball would tell you that having an ace out there every 5th day is just as important as having a stud that plays every day.

	tyant649:	Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 GMT		-4 points
	Pitchers should not be allowed to win the MVP, especially Eckersly cause he was a closer! Pitchers do not play 150 - 162 games a season, pitchers pitch about 35! (BTW I'm not saying it is a bad quiz, it's an awesome quiz.)

	BrentH:	Nov 22nd, 2011 at 15:19 GMT		-3 points
	The tagline isn't particularly accurate ("it helps to throw a no-hitter"). Obviously, Eck, Fingers and Hernandez didn't throw no-hitters in their CY-MVP years. But also, neither did Newcombe, Gibby, Mclain, Blue, or the Rocket. Only the Left Arm of God and now Verlander threw no-nos in their Cy-MVP year.

	towny35:	Nov 22nd, 2011 at 18:02 GMT		0 points
	@BrentH - It's not an inaccurate statement. Throwing a no-hitter would certainly increase the likelihood of winning awards. Not throwing a no-hitter does not preclude someone from winning either, obviously.

	MFHBoiler:	Nov 23rd, 2011 at 22:10 GMT		0 points
	Done with 1:42 left. That's as fast as I could type. Hershiser was way more valuable than Gibson in 1988. More SP's should win MVP.

	J_bizzle:	Dec 8th, 2011 at 01:18 GMT		-1 points
	so glad verlander got both. he's absolutely deserving. great quiz i love it!

	MatttD:	Jan 6th, 2012 at 20:25 GMT		1 point
	@aws2594: there are three closers on the list: Eck, Fingers, and senor smoke himself, Guillermo Hernandez of the 1984 Tigers.

	ShapeShift58:	Jun 20th, 2012 at 08:40 GMT		0 points
	Can't believe I knew all of them!

	abernier3:	Oct 2nd, 2012 at 06:06 GMT		0 points
	Pedro Martinez got SCREWWWWWWWWWWED out of the MVP in 1999