Can you name the countries on the extreme sides of gay rights? by OdysseusKelly

Can you name the countries on the extreme sides of gay rights?

created by OdysseusKelly

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Correctly named countries will show up below
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Source: this (see first comment)
*As the source notes, information on punishments for same-sex female relationships is largely unavailable **Maximum possible sentence for a consensual gay sex act (see first comment)
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Same-sex marriage legal
Since 2010
Since 2003
Since 2005
Since 2012
Since 2010
Since 2001
Since 2009
Since 2010
Since 2006
Since 2005
Since 2009

Same-sex male relationships punishable by 10 or more years in prison*
Life**
10 years**
10 years**
15 years**
25 years**
Life**
10 years**
21 years**
Unclear
14 years**
20 years**
14 years**
Life**
10 years**
Life**
25 years**
Life**
14 years**

Same-sex male relationships punishable by death*
For all adults
For Muslim men (by public stoning)
In some states
For a non-Muslim or married Muslim
In some parts
3rd offense
For any premarital relations with anybody
For married men (by public stoning)

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Created Mar 13, 2012 in Geography
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	OdysseusKelly:	Mar 13th, 2012 at 07:02 GMT		30 points
	First, the source: My original source for this quiz was the New York Times one given. This remains the best representation I've found of the information here presented, and is thus what I've listed as my source. However, in researching the specifics of the data given, I came across this source (ilga.org/historic/Statehomophobia/ILGA_State_Sponsored_Homophobia_2009.pdf), which gives some more in-depth information and in at least one place contradicts the Times source. As the Times source references the ILGA one, I've deferred to the ILGA on any points of inconsistency between the two, as well as for details about punishments (any details about same-sex marriage not found in the Times source come from Wikipedia). All in all, the ILGA source is a trove of interesting information, while the Times source shows a great at-a-glance representation of the data used for this quiz. So I guess that's all to say about that. Other than that, ummm I hope this quiz doesn't seem too much in favor of any political agenda. I advocate no political stance other than one against state-sponsored injustice, and if you think that severe prison sentences and the death penalty are a just punishment for homosexuality, then I think that's your bigotry showing, not my liberalism. I'm not saying that everyone should be radically for gay rights, but I do think that everyone should be in favor of basic rights for all of their fellow men and women. So that's all for now. I'll address any other issues as they come up. Your comments are welcome as always! I prefer an explained one-globe review to an unexplained three-globe. Thanks, Tom.

	egernunge:	Mar 13th, 2012 at 16:24 GMT		15 points
	Very interesting quiz. You could add Denmark as a bonus (for now) - news came out today that same-sex marriage will become legal here on June 15th this year. :-)

	H0limkill:	Mar 13th, 2012 at 18:01 GMT		-3 points
	No Greece ?

	OdysseusKelly:	Mar 13th, 2012 at 19:14 GMT		4 points
	@Egernunge Sure, I'll add a bonus right now. Any other ideas for bonuses, everybody? @H0limkill Hmmm?

	penelope_z:	Mar 13th, 2012 at 19:36 GMT		9 points
	Why Greece? Same-sex marriage is not recognized, and I'm pretty sure you won't get stoned to death for being gay either.

	Djibouti:	Mar 14th, 2012 at 03:31 GMT		7 points
	Nice quiz, but the left column is really hard to read.

	OdysseusKelly:	Mar 14th, 2012 at 09:21 GMT		5 points
	@Djibouti Yeah, I was worried about that. Is this color better?

	indianwolf1992:	Mar 14th, 2012 at 10:10 GMT		4 points
	Any thoughts on why the Anglophone countries in Africa are so much harder on gays than the Francophone? Yes, there are exceptions, but the second column is absolutely dominated by Anglophone countries. Come to think of it, except Libya all the countries in the middle column are English-speaking. Is this all just a coincidence?

	OdysseusKelly:	Mar 14th, 2012 at 10:27 GMT		25 points
	@indianwolf1992 Sodomy was decriminalized in France under the National Constituent Assembly in 1791, and the Penal Code of 1810 did not re-criminalize it. The latter fact is important because with Napoleon at that time having a hegemony over nearly all of continental Europe, the law spread rapidly, and as those former Napoleonic colonies or allies colonized their own nations, many of these countries adopted Napoleonic law too. The Civil Code of 1804 (The Code Napoleon), often (erroneously) said to have decriminalized homosexuality, was, incidentally, chiefly authored by the openly gay Jean-Jacques-Régis de Cambacérès, though he is not believed to have influenced the uncontroversial decision to maintain the policy of the Assembly. England, on the other hand, did not legalize homosexuality until 1967, and the Queen of England is still Head of State of several countries on the second list in this quiz. Thus the French Revolution can be credited with the bulk of global LGBT-rights progress, as Napoleon's most significant cultural achievement was the imposition of Revolutionary ideals and policies throughout Europe and Latin America, and, to a lesser extent, Africa.

	Tankman182:	Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:13 GMT		3 points
	Interesting to see a number of Caribbean countries on the imprisonment list... I guess presumably for similar reasons as the formerly-British African countries?

	indianwolf1992:	Mar 14th, 2012 at 17:34 GMT		3 points
	@OdysseusKelly: Very interesting, thanks for the great insight and explanation!

	Zephos:	Mar 14th, 2012 at 21:07 GMT		4 points
	@Tankman182: The Caribbean is notoriously homophobic, that no doubt has an impact.

	OdysseusKelly:	Mar 14th, 2012 at 21:46 GMT		7 points
	No need to vote down Djibouti's comment, folks. The background color used to be darker, and it made the black hard to read.

	ssfoxx:	Mar 18th, 2012 at 04:40 GMT		2 points
	There are Indian tribes that recognize same-sex marriages? I had no idea. I've heard that both the UK and Australia are in talks to legalize same-sex marriage, but I'm not sure that counts for enough to be a bonus.

	Gullek:	Mar 19th, 2012 at 23:05 GMT		4 points
	It seems there are some countries missing from this list. For example, Jamaica has a 10 year maximum prison sentence for same sex male relationships, and other nations prohibit it without formal punishments (for example, in North Korea, you would almost assuredly be imprisoned and in Afghanistan, you'd almost assuredly be killed).

	OdysseusKelly:	Mar 20th, 2012 at 03:37 GMT		2 points
	@Gullek I hate to change the quiz with so many plays, but yes, you are correct about Jamaica, and I have added this answer. (At the very least, the Caribbean answers have been the least guessed, so the statistics shouldn't be too inaccurate now.) If you, or anyone else, is aware of any other countries I've missed, please, please tell me now so I don't have to throw off the stats a second time.As for the other points, this quiz is based on nations' laws, not their de facto policies. According to the ILGA, homosexuality is legal in North Korea, so I have not included it as an answer. As for cases like Afghanistan, where most of the country does not follow a centralized government, if you can show me laws on the books in some regions imposing harsh penalties on homosexuality, I'll put the country in with a note (as I have with Nigeria and Somalia [the former of which does have a centralized government, but is federalized in such a way that individual states can impose a death penalty for homosexuality]). But as little as I'd like to be gay in Afghanistan, the fact that the culture may be disapproving to the point of homicide is irrelevant in a quiz about national or regional laws.

	DiegoSanchez:	Mar 21st, 2012 at 03:37 GMT		3 points
	The only quiz on sporcle where you can say this quiz is gay without being downvoted! But on a serious note, great quiz. I always find it ironic that there are countries with computers, motor vehicles, satellite dishes, etc.- yet homosexuality is punished by death.

	godpaul25:	Mar 21st, 2012 at 16:24 GMT		8 points
	No wonder nobody can come up with anything more fashionable than black or white robes in the middle east. Know what would look cute? If you accented that with this studded bel.. aarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.

	newenglander:	Aug 18th, 2012 at 20:25 GMT		2 points
	I know the Caribbean can be very homophobic, but the fact that there are some countries there that have government sanctioned punishments for same-sex relations really destroys the Caribbean's image as a chilled out place.

	bmcnamee:	Mar 17th, 2013 at 02:58 GMT		1 point
	I'm really confused about the note that popped up with the Netherlands.... what do you mean by "the Netherlands are the only such nation generally considered to have fully legalized same-sex marriage"

	saban4pres:	Mar 17th, 2013 at 04:15 GMT		1 point
	I was surprised at two things, really. #1. UAE being so harsh. I guess I was wrong in considering them a much more progressive Arab state. #2. South Africa having gay marriage.

	Teary_Ennui:	Mar 17th, 2013 at 14:17 GMT		0 points
	The UK has passed legislation allowing same-sex marriage but it's yet to take effect; not sure when the implementation date. Your source uses quite a strict definition for marriage as many countries have some form of civil union which is effectively the same thing - perhaps civil union countries could be a bonus?

	TheMightyQuinn:	Mar 18th, 2013 at 05:05 GMT		1 point
	@Teary_Ennui: the Marriage (Same-Sex Couples) Bill hasn't passed yet. It was approved by a large majority by the House of Commons on the second reading. The House of Lords might try to hold it up and could do so for a couple of years (though that seems unlikely), but once it's been approved three times by the Commons (and at least two years have passed between the second reading and the final approval in the Commons), the House of Lords have no veto power because of the Parliament Act 1911. In other words, it's not part of UK law yet but it's a sure thing to be soon. Also, there are no plans to introduce it in Northern Ireland (though there are in Scotland). Maybe worth a bonus if it can be put more pithily than what I just wrote!

	OdysseusKelly:	Apr 24th, 2013 at 20:34 GMT		1 point
	@bmcnamee That was in reference to the fact that The Kingdom of the Netherlands comprises four "countries" (The Netherlands, Aruba, Curaçao, and Sint Maarten), of which only one (the part in Europe) performs gay marriages; this means that in some ways they are no more "universal" in their legalization than the United States are, however they're widely considered to have legalized it federally, even if by some metrics they really haven't.