Can you name the European Countries not in the European Union? by HiddenPalace

Can you name the European Countries not in the European Union?

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This quiz includes countries that have partial territory in geographical Europe as well as those that are sociopolitically European. Standard Sporcle naming conventions and country definitions apply.
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European Countries not in the EU Quiz

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Created Mar 5, 2010 in Geography
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	drummerchic312:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 14:15 GMT	10 points
	uhhh kazakhstan is in asia. I'll let azerbaijan, georgia, and armenia slide casue sometimes they are considered Europe. But KAzakhstan? is like in the middle of ASIA!

	HiddenPalace:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 15:02 GMT	-2 points
	Read what I wrote - "This quiz includes countries that have PARTIAL TERRITORY in GEOGRAPHICAL Europe". (I'd have chosen to use italics, not caps, if there were an option). You can't accuse me of pedantry; it's that sort of thing that distinguishes the good from the bad on Sporcle.

	nadivereb:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 15:32 GMT	3 points
	Here, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan are considered Asian. If you choose another way, please state it in the name of the quiz. "European Countries" does not include those four in standard Sporcle language.

	HiddenPalace:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 16:05 GMT	-3 points
	When I said "country definitions" in the note I meant definitions of what constitutes a country (i.e. including Kosovo but not South Ossetia) as being standard in Sporcle. This did not refer to Sporcle's designation of what continent a country is on, and I explicitly stated clearly in the note how the quiz was defined.

	yellowcarpet:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 16:18 GMT	3 points
	Something like 1% of Kazakhstan is in Europe.

	WadeGarrett:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 16:34 GMT	4 points
	Wikipedia is not a good source for what countries are in Europe. By Sporcle custom, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia are not in Europe.

	1447:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 17:06 GMT	10 points
	@HiddenPalace: Good luck convincing them Kazakhstan has part of its territory in Europe. I once had to take a quiz offline because people kept voting it down, just because I included Kazakhstan when the quiz was about European countries. To the rest of you: The traditional border between Europe and Asia is the Ural Mountains and the Ural river, which puts a small part of Kazakhstan in Europe. You don't have to like it, but that's just how it is, stop destroying a quiz's score just because you don't like how the world is.

	nyo:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 17:40 GMT	-3 points
	@1447 and Hiddenplace. For the sake of not pissing of everybody of take away Kazakhstan, Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan. There are many ways to define Europe and Sporcle has chosen one that does not include those countries. Sporcle conventions should be law when writing a quiz.

	HiddenPalace:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 17:45 GMT	6 points
	@nyo: and Turkey is somehow more European than these just because Sporcle says so?

	A_is_for_Addict:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 17:48 GMT	8 points
	After the Ural River, the next borders of Europe are, the Caspian Sea and the Caucasus Mountains in the South East. This means that Azerbaijan and Georgia have European territory, but Armenia does not - it is entirely in Asia. As has been mentioned previously, I would only include the countries that sporcle considers to be European to avoid the confusion.

	nyo:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 18:25 GMT	5 points
	@hiddenplace. This is not a discussion about which countries can be considered Europe. I actually agree with you on that. The point is that people who take this quiz are not used to seeing these countries as European, meaning that when taking the quiz for the first time most people will miss out on those awnsers. Which leads to pissed of people. This is why there is an unwritten sporcle convention to begin with.

	johnlk:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 19:29 GMT	4 points
	I'm fine with Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Kazakhstan, which all have territory that is unambiguously in Europe, but isn't Armenia wholly Asian?

	1447:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 20:11 GMT	5 points
	Armenia is kinda like Cyprus: Geographically entirely in Asia, but politically it is European, and has been for a long time. I agree with Nyo's second comment though, people won't think of Kazakhstan and Caucasus as European, and thus they won't guess it either. Maybe have those four as bonus answers?

	HiddenPalace:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 20:12 GMT	2 points
	@johnlk: You could say the same about Cyprus, if it was on this quiz. :D

	JeroAdmi:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 20:17 GMT	3 points
	I totally agree with HiddenPalace, because it's not made of a Sporcleview.

	TheSnowmanishere:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 20:38 GMT	-2 points
	I wonder if the creator took this from Football. As Kazakhstan is included in the Europe UEFA qualifying system. Then again, so is Israel and they arent on the quiz.

	Davedufc:	Mar 5th, 2010 at 22:01 GMT	1 point
	it looks that way - nothing wrong with that - Israel is only in UEFA for political reasons

	diocletian:	Mar 6th, 2010 at 00:43 GMT	0 points
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_and_the_European_Union#Kazakhstan If the European Union considers Kazakhstan eligible for membership, than it certainly belongs as an answer on this quiz.

	HiddenPalace:	Mar 6th, 2010 at 09:43 GMT	3 points
	Georgia and Armenia are probably more culturally European than Turkey anyway, given the Christianity/Islam divide and the history of the Ottoman Empire which was traditionally seen as invading Europe, but not being part of it.

	thecheshirecat:	Oct 4th, 2010 at 07:37 GMT	2 points
	I'm with Hidden Palace. You're the quizmaster, mate. You set the rules, made them clear and you stuck to them.

	tahitiwahini:	Dec 29th, 2010 at 15:49 GMT	1 point
	@diocletian: Nothing in the link you cite indicates Kazakhstan is eligible for membership. Instead the article discusses the relations between Kazakhstan and the European Union and characterizes the existing relationship as an external one. The EU and Kazakhstan have a relationship but it isn't one of membership or even potential membership, at least there's no evidence to establish that in the link cited.

	cheesenewyorkbob:	Jun 15th, 2011 at 15:32 GMT	0 points
	Kazakhstan , Armenia , Georgia and Azerbaijan are all ASIAN that's a bit stupid putting Them in. You've been cnyb'ed. Laters

	Tomodach1:	Aug 15th, 2011 at 18:03 GMT	0 points
	I don't agree with the answers. Armenia, Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Georgia and Turkey are officially considered West Asia.

	Patrick_WWFC:	Nov 11th, 2011 at 21:13 GMT	1 point
	If you want to question Kazakhstan because it is 'like in the middle of Asia' why not question Russia, which reaches further east by far, both countries have partial territory in Europe, this is a good quiz and people should not vote it down because they either did not read or could not understand the note.