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Apr 5th, 2011 at 20:26 GMT
A few notes; 1. The BAA entry is included because the NBA counts the BAA stats as part of its history. 2. I did not include St. Paul (MLB), Boston (NFL) or Minneapolis (NBA) because of the Twins, Patriots and Timberwolves who play in those metro regions, even if their stadiums are located in the 'burbs. 3. I did not include the NFL team in the Frankford neighborhood of Philly from 1924-1931 because Frankford had already been annexed into Philly for several generations prior to that and so was not an independent city at the time (and Philly is obviously not included because of the Eagles).
Apr 6th, 2011 at 04:10 GMT
This was loads of fun! Just curious why Indianapolis is included for NBA, since they have the current Pacers… and why the NBA's 1949-1950 Sheboygan Red Skins are excluded.
Apr 6th, 2011 at 05:02 GMT
Yeah, Indianapolis should be out.
Apr 6th, 2011 at 06:07 GMT
I might include Pittsburgh for having a former MLB team, have the Pirates really been a major league team since the 1990's?
Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:08 GMT
NBA is fixed. Seems I somehow skipped over the 1949-50 season, which was problematic since Sheboygan was one of three teams that came and went in that year!
Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:51 GMT
Add Memphis for NFL...the Titans played there one season before moving to Nashville.
Apr 6th, 2011 at 13:07 GMT
Why is Brooklyn included? It's not a city, and even if it was, there are existing teams in the metro area. btw, it hasn't been an independent city since 1896, so it wasn't a city when those teams were there, except for the first 10 years of baseball. And how about Omaha, part of the KC-Omaha Kings for a couple of years?
Apr 6th, 2011 at 13:23 GMT
@DCee- The Titans temporary play in Memphis was simply a stadium issue, not a relocation. If I included Memphis then I would have to include a number of others cities where teams played temporarily while stadiums were being built or repaired, in many cases, college towns. @pita- Foiled by my own logic! You're absolutely right about Brooklyn as to football (and Staten Island as well), though the pre-consolidation baseball data is still applicable, and as the Mets are in Queens and the Yankees in the Bronx, there is no team in what was once the City of Brooklyn.
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Apr 6th, 2011 at 14:41 GMT
Washington D.C. had the Washington Senators twice and then they moved....first to Minnesota (Twins) and then to Texas (Rangers). Nationals are the 3rd franchise to move to Washington D.C.
Apr 6th, 2011 at 14:42 GMT
Los Angeles? Raiders/Rams...
Apr 6th, 2011 at 15:04 GMT
@iowacub- And Washington now has the Nationals, so they aren't on this list as the list is only cities that no longer have a team but once did. @Mr_Banta- LA is there, in fact, it's the second most guessed answer.
Apr 6th, 2011 at 15:06 GMT
Love the quiz. I am amazed at how the NFL was once in such a tight region of Ohio/Indiana/Michigan.
Apr 6th, 2011 at 16:12 GMT
Seattle had an NHL team. I think they may have even won a cup. Mostly because the other team all had the flu or something like that.
Apr 6th, 2011 at 16:52 GMT
@WAG: You're close, but not quite. If you're referring to the Seattle Metropolitans, yes they did win the 1917 Stanley Cup, but the Cup was not exclusive to NHL teams back then. They played in the Pacific Coast Hockey Association. The WHL Seattle Totems came very close to promotion to the NHL in the mid-'70s but it just didn't quite come to pass.
Apr 6th, 2011 at 16:54 GMT
Kansas city and Omaha shared the Kings for a year or two (Half their home games in one city, half in the other). Therefore, Omaha could be an NBA answer
Apr 6th, 2011 at 17:05 GMT
@duhamell- Omaha is an accepted answer under the Kansas City NBA entry.
Apr 6th, 2011 at 20:14 GMT
Shouldn't the Baltimore answer for the NBA include the years 1963-1973 for years that a team was there for the later Bullets?
Apr 6th, 2011 at 20:41 GMT
@amwoods13- It should! (And now it does.) Thanks.
Apr 7th, 2011 at 02:36 GMT
Awesome, awesome quiz- great idea, Hejman. I would've liked to have had another minute or two on the clock, but that's just me. 5/5!
Also, even though I love (and, indeed, work in) sports, I usually get smoked by other Sporclers on sports quizzes. Seeing "You scored at the 98th percentile" made me feel pretty awesome for a fleeting moment.
Apr 7th, 2011 at 03:53 GMT
I liked this a lot. I wonder if you could change the formatting. It is a little odd
Apr 7th, 2011 at 18:56 GMT
I read what you said about your reasoning for not including Boston, but as a diehard Patriots fan who has lived in Boston for 5 years, I don't consider the Patriots to be a Boston team. Otherwise I thought this was an excellent quiz.
Apr 7th, 2011 at 22:23 GMT
Go Kardex! Tonawanda has the record for the shortest-lived team in the NFL--1 game (0-1). I'm from across the canal in North Tonawanda, but our city never had an NFL franchise!
Apr 7th, 2011 at 23:26 GMT
Please accept Quad Cities for Tri Cities
Apr 8th, 2011 at 00:01 GMT
I was trying to remember teams like the Toledo Blue Sox and the Decatur Staleys...and completely forgot that the NFL was no longer in LOS ANGELES. Epic fail.
Apr 8th, 2011 at 00:23 GMT
@teffy24- Will do. @koopa08- Small world. I'm originally from across the river on Grand Island.
Apr 8th, 2011 at 00:52 GMT
I apologize ahead of time for the incredibly long comment... Sorry to seem nitpicky, but I looked up Oorang and it appears that the Oorang Indians were actually not named after a city- the actual city name was LaRue (Ohio) and I can't find any evidence that there is or ever was a town called Oorang. Also, you are very right to not include Minneapolis for the NBA, since the Timberwolves have always played within the Minneapolis city limits. Also, I'm pretty sure none of the many incarnations of the St. Paul Saints were ever major league teams, so St. Paul has never had an MLB team. With that being said, I definitely agree that including Bloomington, MN as a former home of the Twins and Vikings would be a terrible idea.
Apr 8th, 2011 at 01:47 GMT
@Mr.F- You're not being nitpicky at all. I listed Oorang (an Indian tribe) because that's how the team name is always displayed. However, LaRue (a tiny town that I happen to now live about 20 minutes from) and its larger neighbor Marion are both accepted answers. My comment about St. Paul may have the wrong league listed in the parenthetical. I'm away from home at a business meeting tonight and I'll check my notes when I get home.
Apr 8th, 2011 at 04:31 GMT
St. Paul did indeed have a MLB team for *part* of the 1884 season. The Union Association struggled so greatly that four of its clubs folded halfway through the year, and one of the teams brought in to replace them was the minor-league St. Paul Apostles. They compiled an amazing 2-6-1 record, all on the road...they are the only team in baseball history to have never played a home game. The entire Union Association collapsed after just one season. Since St. Paul is a distinct city from Minneapolis...you included Brooklyn which was not a distinct city for most of the life of its teams...it would be more complete to include it as an answer here.
Apr 8th, 2011 at 04:43 GMT
i laughed so hard at the url for this quiz. there is an inner circle of hell reserved for that man
Apr 8th, 2011 at 23:34 GMT
Add Victoria (Cougars moved to Detroit), Hamilton (Tigers folded), Portland (Rosebuds moved to Chicago)to the NHL
Apr 9th, 2011 at 03:26 GMT
@aws2594- The Victoria Cougars (like Seattle) won the Stanley Cup but never played in the NHL. They were in the WHL when they won that cup. The WHL then folded and the team joined the NHL and moved to Detroit, but there was never a Victoria team in the NHL so they don't belong on the list. There were two Portland Rosebuds teams but neither played in the NHL (the Stanley Cup winners were a WHL team). Hamilton is already on the list and always has been.
Apr 9th, 2011 at 05:48 GMT
Quebec Nordiques and Hartford Whalers are two of the most badass logos of sports all-time.
Apr 9th, 2011 at 06:03 GMT
@teh_DR- I was at a meeting in Akron, Ohio yesterday and there was a car in the parking lot with a Hartford Whalers sticker on it and I actually thought to myself, "that's a bada** logo". Glad I'm not alone in that assessment!
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Apr 9th, 2011 at 08:05 GMT
The Bears played in Champaign, IL while Soldier Field was renovated in 2002.
Apr 9th, 2011 at 14:24 GMT
@franktank26- Please see my comment up above about Memphis wherein I already explained that I'm not including cities that hosted a game temporarily because of stadium, weather, natural disaster or similar issues. If I did, the quiz would probably have more than 200 answers.
Apr 11th, 2011 at 23:34 GMT
Great quiz, but I have one suggestion: for MLB, if you're going to include the 1884 Union Association's Altoona and Wilmington teams, you should also include teams from the 1871-1875 National Association and 1914-1915 Federal League. This adds teams from Elizabeth, NJ, Fort Wayne, Keokuk, IA, Middletown, Conn., New Haven, Newark, Rockford, Ill., and St. Paul (which was also a UA team, just like Altoona and Wilmington). The NA was the NL's predecessor and is often recognized as the first Major League. The FL was the last "3rd major league" to actually play, and were as much a major league as the UA, if not more so.
Apr 12th, 2011 at 21:36 GMT
I got Altoona, but not Vancouver; and I'm from BC... :S
Game published: Apr 14th, 2011 at 17:03 GMT
Apr 14th, 2011 at 17:04 GMT
.../the_art_modell_quiz = AWESOME
Apr 14th, 2011 at 17:15 GMT
@triberocker- Having lived in the Cleveland area for three years (including the period where the Browns moved), I just couldn't resist that one.
Apr 14th, 2011 at 17:23 GMT
Rochester-MLB should be 1890 and not 1870.
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