Foreign born and Native American person on these U.S. stamps Quiz by Hejman

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Foreign born on U.S. Stamps (images) Quiz

by Hejman

Created Apr 12, 2011 in History
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	sdbulldog:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 04:53 GMT		-4 points
	terrible title for the quiz, like half these people ARE americans. Cesar Chavez was born in Arizona; Crazy Horse, Geronimo, and Sitting Bull are NATIVE Americans for crying out loud. Hitchcock became an American citizen in the fifties.

	Hejman:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 05:26 GMT		6 points
	@sdbulldog- Alas, I chose my words poorly, though, in my defense, the quiz did specifically ask for non-U.S. citizens and Crazy Horse, Geronimo and Sitting Bull were citizens of their native tribes, not the U.S. However, my description was not appropriate for Hitchcock and Lugosi, both of whom later took American citizenship. I have altered the title and your comment, despite it's tone, is much appreciated.

	sconroy93:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 14:23 GMT		2 points
	great quiz Hejman. You think you could make another quiz like this but with professional athletes on postage stamps?

	carbon_rod:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 14:47 GMT		4 points
	Should accept Virgin Mary for Mary.

	Hejman:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 15:19 GMT		4 points
	@sconroy93- I do believe I could! @carbon_rod- Excellent point, not sure how I missed that.

	redsxfenway:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 15:32 GMT		7 points
	Am I the only one who typed in Dracula for Bela Lugosi?

	balakalak:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 16:08 GMT		1 point
	this is an excellent quiz! another triumph well done!

	hasdrubal:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 18:23 GMT		11 points
	Last I checked, Ricky Ricardo was a fictional person played by Desi Arnaz...

	rainjax:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 20:10 GMT		-2 points
	I'll echo the points on Native Americans and "Ricky Ricardo." Those lands may not have been part of the US at the time, but if you put them down as "born outside the US" you have to count every founding father and president born before Van Buren.

	Hejman:	Apr 12th, 2011 at 20:41 GMT		-1 points
	@hasdrubal- Hah! That's what I get for trying to edit a quiz in the middle of the work day. I'll fix that as soon as quiz editing comes back online tonight. @rainjax- I never said that this quiz had every person on it who was born outside the US and had a stamp. And your argument about Native Americans is, in fact, not correct, as native lands are part of Indian nations and NOT a part of the United States.

	bombsy:	Apr 13th, 2011 at 02:48 GMT		2 points
	I agree with Hejman. Using Native Americans is sort of stupid. The Desi Arnaz one is just inexcusable. "Ricky Ricardo" shouldn't even be an acceptable answer, let alone the only answer, because there is no real "Ricky Ricardo".

	jessicarr415:	Apr 13th, 2011 at 03:15 GMT		-2 points
	Just have to add how annoyed I was about including Native Americans as foreign born, and the Desi Arnez mistake.

	sdbulldog:	Apr 13th, 2011 at 03:27 GMT		1 point
	@Hejman correct me if I'm wrong, but was the title for the quiz not something on the order of "non-Americans" on US stamps, and didn't specifically mention citizenship? Maybe you put it in the fine print, but I don't remember the word citizen being in the title of the quiz. I apologize for the tone, I just got excited because there seemed to be more errors than usual.

	Hejman:	Apr 13th, 2011 at 12:01 GMT		2 points
	@sdbulldog- Well, I would hope any serious errors would be "more errors than usual", but as I noted above, I appreciate your pointing the errors out. Unfortunately, with the site maintenance last night, I was locked out of fixing them until this morning. I've corrected my bone-headed error on Desi Arnaz and have reworded the quiz instructions so that everything is hopefully clearer. Other suggestions are welcome!

	wolfmantony:	Apr 13th, 2011 at 20:35 GMT		2 points
	Cool quiz. Small point: the guy on the stamp with Lucille Ball is Desi Arnaz, not Desi Arnaz Jr.

	NinedenLtD:	Apr 13th, 2011 at 23:30 GMT		2 points
	Thank you for including the many Native Americans who were foreign born. Frankly, in response to your critics, I would say that you do not need to differentiate between "foreign born" and "Native American" in the title. All the examples you have included were foreign born people. For the most part, the founding fathers were born in British North America, and as an historian I would say that they do not county as "foreign born." You have used the terms appropriately and I commend you. Don't bother with your critics. This is a rare quiz that doesn't rely on popular misconceptions of sovereignty.

	WalterSobchak:	Apr 18th, 2011 at 03:23 GMT		1 point
	I'll be mischievous and ask wouldn't all our presidents from Washington to Jackson be considered foreign born also then? Or at least Alexander Hamilton? I also wonder if Churchill ever had dual citizenship (if it even existed back then).

	gowhere:	Apr 18th, 2011 at 13:37 GMT		1 point
	@WalterSobchak: Interesting question on Churchill, as his mother was American. It might be helpful to split this quiz into two parts so that you could include - More Native Americans and more foreign-born. Little bit of trivia, the first woman (real as opposed to allegorical) to appear on a US postage stamp was foreign-born - Queen Isabella of Spain.

	Hejman:	Apr 19th, 2011 at 03:05 GMT		1 point
	@WalterSobchak- You're not being mischievous at all. The logic follows that they would be foreign-born, but as I noted above, I never claimed that this quiz had every U.S. stamp that ever had a person on it who was foreign born and I've already had a Presidents on stamps quiz that was published, so I wouldn't use the Presidents again.

	billymac72:	Apr 19th, 2011 at 16:24 GMT		1 point
	Gosh, I loved collecting stamps as a kid. Do kids have such hobbies today? I learned so much from them, and they were completely interactive, i.e., the fun was what you brought to them because stamps on their own do absolutely nothing (unlike today's passive entertainment and video games). In fact, I remember that the Dag Hammarskjöld stamp was circulated as an error, which is pictured here (the background color is messed up).

	quizzesarenice:	Apr 19th, 2011 at 16:29 GMT		3 points
	How dare you suggest Jesus Christ wasn't American! What are you, some kind of Democrat?

	BamaMuaddib:	Apr 30th, 2011 at 04:03 GMT		1 point
	Nice quiz, good mix of difficulty. I'm with billymac72 in thinking that, although nerdy, collecting stamps taught me a ton! Only thing I would suggest is taking Madonna as an alternate for Mary & Jesus since the stamp portrays a work of art and it is customary to refer to her as such in art.

	Beatlezfann:	May 1st, 2011 at 17:44 GMT		1 point
	Its Enrico Palazzo... er... Caruso!!!!!

	Tahnan:	Sep 12th, 2011 at 04:12 GMT		1 point
	Hmph. If "The Statue of Liberty" counts as a woman on the "women on stamps" quiz, she ought to count as foreign-born on this one.