Can you name the answers to the Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever? by Buckler

Can you name the answers to the Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever?

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A cell can only be one of these: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,X. There is exactly one of each number. There are 16 Xs. If you enjoy then please give it a 5 rating. Thanks.
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Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever Quiz

by Buckler

Created Nov 30, 2012 in Just For Fun
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	debaser_1985:	Nov 30th, 2012 at 23:22 GMT		16 points
	Nice quiz. I actually took a slightly different method to your solution for parts 8 & 9 (spoiler from the 'adds up to 12' clue, the only combination possible for LQV is 3+4+5 in whichever order. That means you can cancel out 4+3=7 and 5+3=8 for clue C because 3, 4 and 5 must all be in different columns. Then you just need to cancel out 6+3=9, due to the odd numbers clue, to leave 1+2=3 as the only possibility.)

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	Buckler:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 00:27 GMT		9 points
	There isn't a cue at x. How is clue H irrelevant?

	gipnov23:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 04:07 GMT		52 points
	i found the clue at H to be very relevant

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	Dr_Seusss:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 18:34 GMT		39 points
	@thedpr: I actually found F to be useful. Because the clue at T dictates that r and s have to be odd numbers, you know that just leaves 7 and 9. Also, clue at H says that the R square must have a clue. If every clue is necessary, then 9 can't have a clue if it is possible for it to be entered last. Thus, R must have 7.

	Buckler:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 18:52 GMT		10 points
	@fergenaprido every square is a rectangle so it's still correct. I used rectangle instead of square because the shape itself is a rectangle.

	NYYanks:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 19:03 GMT		11 points
	Needs a lot of thinking which I like. One of the better logic puzzles out there.

	gorbadorba:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 19:07 GMT		23 points
	Like how there isn't a theme about like countries or sports teams or anything. No trivia just straight up logic.

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	Buckler:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 19:47 GMT		12 points
	It's not possible for 9 to have a clue. Cell H: If you don't guess and only use logic, it's possible for 9 to be the last one. Cell E says that every clue is necessary to get all 9 numbers without guessing. That means it's not possible for 9 to have a clue.

	bingobongo:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 22:43 GMT		16 points
	Is it really possible to 'discover' 9 last when the placement of 8 is determined by knowing where the 9 is? Also, after you get 7 you know that the last odd number must go in the only blank space in that column, which is 9. Unless I guessed without realizing it on one of the clues.

	Buckler:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 23:10 GMT		9 points
	When the clue says discover it means entering 9 in the correct box. It's possible to know where 9 is without entering it in the box. That is how it's possible for it to be the last number "discovered" without guessing.

	thedpr:	Dec 1st, 2012 at 23:24 GMT		10 points
	@Dr_Seusss: The quiz has been modified now to specify "without guessing", which alleviates my concerns.

	Tahnan:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 05:16 GMT		34 points
	Hardest ever? Hardly; it took me four minutes. But it's certainly interesting, though the meta-logic involved in getting the 7 is kind of weird.

	Colmar:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 06:07 GMT		7 points
	I solved this completely by using logic but ended with 8/6. Also, with all due respect to the quiz maker, this is definitely not the most difficult logic puzzle, as i normally don't even finish them in time, much less six minutes. Once you know that only 3,4,5 will add up to twelve with 1 and 2 already taken you're pretty much done. Still, awesome quiz, an easier logic puzzle always comes in handy to make me feel better after that travellers/suitcase puzzle.

	Buckler:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 07:29 GMT		2 points
	I just want to say that I do not think this is the hardest logic puzzle ever. I do, however, think that the quiz is good, so I named it "Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" so more people would play it. Because more people play it, more people get to enjoy the quiz. There's some logic.

	cougarfan:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 11:15 GMT		5 points
	Cell E: "necessary" is misspelled. Somebody else mentioned "column" to you, which made me feel free to tell you. But I LOVE the quiz and I agree with gorbadorba, straight logic, no sports etc. Do another one if you haven't already! Thanks!

	Ubbiebubbie:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 15:43 GMT		2 points
	The 'j' clue has a typo (column, not colunm)

	Ubbiebubbie:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 15:53 GMT		-3 points
	In the fourth column, contrary to the clue at C, the two lower numbers do not add up to the larger one? Am I being foolish?

	AKAPseudonym:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 16:59 GMT		7 points
	I took me a while to figure out the value of F's clue, but when it clicked it was glorious. Nice meta thinking going on there.

	MikeN:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 18:57 GMT		15 points
	I'm voting this down simply because it says hardest logic puzzle ever. That title raises the bar and puts you on a tougher grading scale. You simply did not deliver.

	phsdancer37:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 19:46 GMT		-3 points
	Had fun with this one, but I think it is an easier one, took me under 6 minutes to solve. However, I disagree with the clue that says 9 will be the last guessed, I figured 9 out before figuring out 5 other numbers.

	miko:	Dec 2nd, 2012 at 20:53 GMT		7 points
	@phsdancer: It doesn't say 9 will be the last guessed. It says that it's possible (which means it's impossible for 9 to be in cell R)

	selene314:	Dec 3rd, 2012 at 03:28 GMT		7 points
	A fun little quiz, but definitely not the hardest (the logic puzzle that required knowledge of presidents born in Ohio was much harder). I suggest you rephrase F to "last number entered", since we KNOW where 9 is at the same time as 7.

	Buckler:	Dec 3rd, 2012 at 08:08 GMT		2 points
	Since so many thought this was too easy, there is now a an even harder one. http://www.sporcle.com/games/Buckler/goodluckyoullneedit

	batmann:	Dec 4th, 2012 at 05:45 GMT		3 points
	clue 10 on the answers is brilliant, I love it. good job

	Ulkomaalainen:	Dec 5th, 2012 at 00:18 GMT		4 points
	While not the hardest ever, it had some (at least for me) novel ideas. Which took me a while to figure out. For that alone 5 globes.

	Roccondil:	Dec 5th, 2012 at 06:04 GMT		-4 points
	While the quiz says it's "possible" for 9 to be the last number guessed, it doesn't specify that such a pattern is mandatory. But when I guessed 8 as my final number it was marked wrong. If 9 should be answered last, please specify that as a requirement.

	Navarro2814:	Dec 5th, 2012 at 18:13 GMT		2 points
	very fun but I had to start over because it said 4 was wrong where it was right, which cause a couple minutes of confusion and anger

	zkerr8:	Dec 5th, 2012 at 18:24 GMT		3 points
	Good quiz. I have done it three times now and had my buddy do it too and still do not see how 9 could be last number. We both had to figure out 7 (which gave us 9 due to odd numbers in the column) and from 7's clue we figured out 6 and 8.

	zkerr8:	Dec 5th, 2012 at 18:26 GMT		2 points
	Nevermind I get it now from the comments that 9 COULD be last, sort of thin logic there, Confusing but I enjoyed it for a work time waster.

	Ulkomaalainen:	Dec 6th, 2012 at 02:46 GMT		3 points
	@roccondil: there is no way in Sporcle quizzes to count the order (unless you force it). So this is just a hint, not a requirement. Something else was wrong with your solution, most probably you already had the 8 somewhere else and overlooked it.

	Quizmaster91:	Dec 7th, 2012 at 01:36 GMT		8 points
	I disagree with all the people here complaining about the logic behind getting number 7/9. I thought is was a fresh idea, and a lot more challenging than a clue like "if cell 1 is A, cell 2 is B" because it demands that you think out of the box. So, although it was certainly not the hardest logic quiz out there, it still deserves the 5 globes I gave it.

	TheFoundGen:	Dec 9th, 2012 at 05:29 GMT		-3 points
	Clue C threw me way, way off. I thought it was implying that there is one number in each column that is equal to the sum of the other two, so when I had numbers 1-5 figured out, I was like, how the **** can I find a sum involving 5 and a number between 6 and 9 that will result in something between 6 and 9? I guess in retrospect it meant that there is only one number in the game for which that is true. The 'logic' involved isn't really very rigorous and I definitely didn't feel like I needed all the clues to figure it out.

	GreatScott:	Dec 10th, 2012 at 15:58 GMT		1 point
	This really wasn't too difficult as others have said. But, I don't know how to figure out the 6/8# cells (W/X) based on the clues. What am I missing? It seems to me, either way satisfies R's clue.

	brez002:	Dec 10th, 2012 at 16:47 GMT		5 points
	@GreatScott It's really a combination of clues F, H, and E. E tells you every clue is necessary (which is necessary to know to solve), which makes E itself necessary. F tells you using logic and not guessing that it is possible that 9 is the last guessed. Then H tells you R has a clue. Therefore, since R is either 9 or 7 by the end, you know it has to be 7 because it has a clue (and it's not possible for 9 to have a clue because as E tells you: every clue is necessary).

	plkphoto:	Dec 11th, 2012 at 05:44 GMT		2 points
	@GreatScott - for 6/8 you need the clue at R -> putting 8 into one of the remaining boxes will make the clue at R invalid because both 8 and 9 will fulfil it and it says "only one" -> thus 8 must go in the other box leaving only one possibility for 6. Does that help? Cool quiz! Like it - hardest or not, it was fun.